The IT Skeptic - Comments for "itSMF International website adrift"

UK Chapter alone has 23 staff

Visitor — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:34:00 +0000

UK Chapter alone has 23 staff and £3.5m+ turnover

Source:

http://www.itsmf.org.hk/eng/event42/1%20-%20Mr.Keith%20Aldis%20-%20ITILv...

Is it just me?

Visitor — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:35:19 +0000

A stupid question but why on earth would itSMF UK want to make itSMF international's website better than their own?

Correct URL for itSMF USA

ianclayton — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:30:43 +0000

Hi everyone... by the way the correct URL to access the itSMF USA site is as follows:

www.itsmfusa.org

The old URL of www.itsmfusa.net did not work for quite a long time but is working as of this week as a redirect to itsmfusa.org

I must say that in my time working with itSMF USA as a Board member and subsequently as an advisory board member very good records of the accounts were kept and always available to members. I have every reason to believe this has continued, especially with David at the helm.

I cannot speak for International's affairs. Given the management of that aspect was outsourced to an organization that specializes in doing just this I would expect the same. The challenge has always been relating expenses and return on investment back to the mission and stated goals... as with any organization.

OK I give up which URL is

skeptic — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:32:54 +0000

OK I give up

which URL is wrong?

The right URL helps....

Observant — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:20:06 +0000

Try:

http://www.itsmfi.org/

Second That...

kengon — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:04:29 +0000

Skep,

I'm with you. I've been associated with a number of non-profits and all had significantly LESS money than itSMF. They still managed to build an effective online presence and keep it relevant.

Where exactly is all the money going? -- Trips? Yachts? Cars? Bulk purchases of v3 books for resale? ITIL Practitioners Pensioner Fund?
When was the last time an annual report was provided showing what got produced and where the money goes?

kengon

not the Red Cross

skeptic — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:40:00 +0000

Don't give me that "volunteers" stuff.

The Board are elected yes. Every one of them makes their fulltime living from Service Management, most of then paid by a vendor employer who would consider Board service an investment in branding and influence. This isn't the Red Cross.

itSMF International turns over millions per annum (of our membership fees as well as sponsorships) and pays itSMFuk for contracted administrative services from fulltime professional employees, including a webmaster.

Run by Volunteers

ITIL citizen — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:52:25 +0000

to be fair, itSMF is a volunteer organization, and board members are not paid for their efforts.

I wouldn't set my expectations too high......in my experience they are more of a networking organization and not one that provides valuable content.